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The Future and The New Past Presentation 6 of 52 Presentation 1-6 Presented by Roger Weir Saturday, February 7, 2015 Transcript: We come to the sixth presentation of 2015 and we're looking at the future and the new past. Not the past and the future, but the future in continuity with the new past. If you compute and cognize time as having a focus on the present, the present moment now, it divides time into past, which is over and future, which is not yet. This kind of time is a kind of a time that is imperial. It establishes man as a species that has hedge money over nature. That our cognition of the present is what does the counting. And we can rearrange nature to fit the counting. And we live in a generation where that is busily being pursued everywhere, all the time on all levels. When you can manipulate every detail of every genome you control from that present now how that future is going to go according to cognitive plan. And that the past is past. It doesn't have anything to say. It's old stuff. So that the famous phrase for that was in the 17th century by a very uppity philosopher named Descartes, Cogito ergo sum. I think therefore I am. That produced in the middle of the 17th century, and you can put abstract date exactly precisely on it, 1650. It produced later on at the beginning of the 20th century, just as the 1890's were pell mell rushing out of all that past into a definite precise now, a mathematical engineering type of genius, Founded Phenomenology. His name was Edmund Husserl. This is a cognitive study of cognition, of exactly and precisely what phenomena are. Phenomenology. The study of phenomena. And that it includes actions as phenomena. And out of this developed in the France's development of Descartes into a world view called Cartesian. And in Germany, where there was an emphasis on thinking it through till it got to be exactly right, which was their version of meditation. And one of Israel's most powerful books was Cartesian Meditations in Phenomenology, which had a watershed effect that rang the bells that were tuned to that tuning fork of Cartesian meditations. And in Germany eventually led to Martin Heidegger. And in France eventually led to Jean-Paul Sartre. And Sartre with his cognitive theory in tow rode at the highest apex of tornadic climax apocalypse in the Second World War and published it right as the war was ending. And the classic is Being and Nothingness in English. And Heidegger had before the Second World War at the end of the First World War, come to an understanding that he was going to be precise and get it Cartesianally meditatively accurate. And in late 1926, early 1927, he produced a classic Being and Time. Sein und Zeit in Deutscher. And between Being and Time and Being and Nothingness was a whole lot of existentialism going on. Well, we've got fore runners. Yeah, we have existential fore runners. Well, sure, Friedrich Nietzsche and we'll be real open about it. And we'll extend it to Soren Kierkegaard and Dostoyevsky and so forth. And, uh, this is the existential maturity of our present command coming of having a cognitive theory that is exact and not only will work, it's going to work. For Heidegger, there was precedence in phenomenology. Husserl but also those qualities there in Germany that had gotten finally disgusted with the complications of an outlook that had all these German language geniuses' way back when that somehow got us to this kind of an impasse where we're being shackled by the limitations on us. Especially of a Europe that doesn't appreciate our accuracy, our organization, our ability to really get the now, now. And to get that present moment so that the past is dead, like it really should be, and that the future is commendable by our planning. Those German geniuses that got us into a kind of an impasse swirl were caught thinking that what we're dealing with is eventually transcendental. That the critique of reason, yes is a classic, but it leads not to just what some people were saying was leading exactly to the critique of, uh, practice of practical action. And that that's the emphasis. Not on transcendental but on getting it right now. But along with him was this genius of, uh, Hegel. And his great classic was about the phenomenology of spirit. Yeah, it's not only transcendental as in the spirit, but one can have a phenomenology of it and that phenomenology is in fact a historical grand movement symphonic By the time that Hegel was putting forth the phenomenology of spirit in its incredible complexity, you had Beethoven writing his symphonies. You had Mozart being recognized for all of these interesting kinds of developments. And the remembrance of Bach was very exact, and it turns out he's exactly colossal. And all this going on. And so, you had also Goethe and Schiller, who along with Kant and Hegel, were just masterfully looking at the whole nature, history, capabilities, inherit in future of man. And with Goethe and Schiller and Kant and Hegel, all of a sudden with Husserl and Heidegger and Sartre, etc., precisely then maturing in the 1920's after the First World War and its false hiatus into the Second World War and its maybe false hiatus then also well, we are going to get it right. There is a devastating critique just published in Isis. It's over 100 years as the great Journal of the History of Science. Founded by George Sartin over 100 years ago, and he helmed it for several decades and then it went to I.B. Cohen, who founded the History of Science Department, the first in the world at Harvard, etc., etc. And in the December 2014, but it didn't come out until 2015, you have articles and the famous 20 or 30, 40 pages of book reviews around the world, uh, you have this great article here, The "Splendid Isolation" of Aaron T. Beck. Well, now who's Aaron T. Beck? Well, he's the founder of CT. He's the founder of Cognitive theron...theory. And weren't computers made just exactly for us? Weren't global politics and economics made particularly for us? You damn better get out of our way. So, in early 2015, we are faced with a free for all. A bar fight. They are all wrong. Every one of them. What is peculiar is the ability to recognize not cognitively but recognize re-cognize. Because the recognition deals with consciousness. Which turns out to have as many dimensions as space-time nature has in all of its cycle, all the way through to the mind. All the way to through to its sense of completion. We've got it and we've got it right and now we're going to drive. Which is all a fiction. Yeah. And beyond fictions there's poetry. And vision. And art. And history. And science. And cosmos, etc. Pick a date and the threshold as a watershed is 1923. In the literary poetic courts of the world at the time, there was great hullabaloo about the pornography. That certainly points out that we should ban and probably burn James Joyce's Ulysses. Just published in 1922. And he's just putting a big swirl whammy on everything. And not only that, but at the same time, Marcel Proust is publishing The Remembrance of Things Past, À la Recherche du Temps Perdu. And what is extremely interesting is that in 1923, you have a triumvirate, you have a trilogy, of qualities exemplified in three books that are published. Last presentation we talked about 1923 being the publishing date of Siwa: The Oasis of Jupiter Ammon. And C, uh, D, uh, Belgrave published this about his visit to and his understanding that Siwa is one of the most misunderstood places in the world. Events in the world. Siwa Oasis is way out several hundred miles in the Western Sahara. Sahara. And, uh, it's at that temple of Amun-Ra. Not just Jupiter Ammon. Jupiter is the Roman Latin for Zeus. And Zeus is the Greek for Ra. But Ra in the sense that it has come as the domination of the sky and so, Zeus is a sky god. Jupiter is the dominant in the whole sky, even in the starry expanse, Jupiter major. So, Alexander the Great, listening to his mother, went to Siwa to discover whether he was indeed divine. The introduction to this book is wonderfully done. And it is a foreword. And it is by his friend, uh, General Reginald Wingate. And Wingate says that Siwa is a very famous even in Islam because it is the place where the recognition of Zikr was most intensely felt. And Zikr is the Arabic word for presence. You can say transcendental. You can say spiritual. We say presence. It is this quality of presence that does a transform on the cognitive theory idea of the present being the arbiter of time. Presence understands the continuity. And it is the continuity of time as a dimension that is the first emergence out of presence, out of Zikr, so that there is literally in the advanced recognition in consciousness, there is such a thing as an, um, angel of the presence, who is in heaven witnessing, especially for man because angels are messengers. That presence is real. Thus, the continuity of time is real. And what manifests out of time space first in its three dimensions, but manifests spontaneously as time and then instantly as space. Because the zero field out of which all that comes is fertile. And the fertility is the zero field of nature comes from dimensions of the ecology of consciousness. There before there is a there. And so, consciousness itself is an infinite field. It's the only way that there is a fertility to a zero field is that an infinite field together with a zero field makes a fertility that emerges time, which instantly then blossoms a space which then proceeds internally to have a universe in which it is the jewelry of that cosmos of at least eight dimensions for of space time, four of consciousness that come together as a ninth. Not an imperium, but an epirium, as they used to say. It is a heavenly realm that creatively allows the spontaneity of the universe to not only occur, but to keep occurring. So that there is not a present moment, there is a presence distributed. In such a way that all time, all space, all cycles. all infinite fields are at home. Fertile. Creative. Remembering. Experiencing. Analyzing. And that the continuity of time confers a tenuity to the structures in time, to the structures of space-time. To the evolution of all of the integral particles and waves that dance together and become the universe cosmically able to recognize. It is this quality in 1923, just when Siwa: The Oasis of Jupiter Ammon is being published in Cambridge University Press in England. What is being published is a great five-volume tome. Volume one is 1923. And the set is Zeus, and its author is A.B. Cook, who at the time was a magisterial researcher and author. And you hardly ever hear about him now. Zeus: A Study in Ancient Religion. This is, uh, volume two, uh, out of the five volumes. Uh, by this time, it was 1925 that Volume two came out. And it's interesting because this pair of 1923 books is kept recognized, sealed, seemingly because of non-acquaintance, mis-acquaintance, etc. till right not now, but in the presence occurring. 1923 was a monumental historical dimension. Where history is a seventh dimension. Out of vision, which is a fifth dimension. Out of the prismatic art of prismatic jewels, of persons and art of all kinds as a sixth dimension. And history is a seventh dimension. Engenders in a differential resonance going on, because time, that fifth dimension of vision is like a quintessential. It's a term from alchemy. It's a term from the science of transmutation. Just because it's this doesn't mean it can't be all those and that. If the structure is worked with in terms of its natural dimensions and given the quintessential visionary fifth dimension to get that consistent not with some kind of a plan, but with possibilities. This book is the third book. It's called, uh Redirecting Science. The subtitle is, uh, Niels Bohr Philanthropy and the Rise of Nuclear Physics, published by Cambridge University Press as well in 1990. It's about how in 1923, two really powerful foundations came together in a synergy and wove what eventually became the bright beacon of the way in which transformations scientifically were going to be understood, even not till now, but even presencing possibilities even beyond 1923 imaginations. One of them was, um, uh International, um Board of Education. I.B.E. And the other was the Rockefeller Philanthropies. And they had different outlooks. The Rockefeller Philanthropies like to have, um, really important developments that, uh, really need to be encouraged and kept fertile. And the I.B.E., the International Board of Education, love to have a kind of a free flow, we don't know what's really important, so, let's just let's do a lot of basic qualities of wide-open research. They came together in a project which set the tone of a beacon of funding. They established in Copenhagen in Denmark, the Research Institute at the University of Copenhagen on the sciences that at the time of Niels Bohr's passing on in 1962, was renamed as the Niels Bohr Institute. And it was at that institute, one of five that were brought together at the time. Almost like the Copenhagen spirit was the quintessential fifth with the other four that were into natural sciences and so forth. And social sciences and so forth. And, uh, Niels Bohr led fifth quintessentially alchemically was transforming everything. I mean, everything. So that one could understand for the first time that the structure of the atom is not only knowable, it's analyzable. And yes, there are electrons we've known that since 1896. Yes, there is a nucleus because we have seen the beginnings of that. Lord Rutherford has, uh, uh, been developing this kind of equipment and here Professor Bohr himself has been developing a theory. And they got together and said, well, there's an interesting kind of parallel going on here. Just like the sun and its planets and moons and so forth orbiting around that, uh, nucleus that's stable center. Stable in the sense that it exists, rather very stable. It's like all the other stars are really quite there. That the atom has a nucleus. And electrons are in orbitals around that nucleus. And that one can know to any degree of specificity, eventually, the mathematics of talking about to writing about exactly that. This is how matter is made. How energy operates with it. And that's right E equals MC squared. The carrier of the electromagnetic energy is light. But light is a frequency, it's a wave. But it is, uh, very, very interesting because it not only acts as a wave, it acts as a particle. Einstein about this time was understanding that there is a particle of light called a photon. And once you have photons interacting with electrons, and that the composition, the structure of the nucleus, is evolving and that eventually all the elements that go to make up the universe are in this very vast scalar, which we can come to understand with any degree of specificity that we would like. Uh, the old Lord Rutherford towards the end of his life in 1937, published the last then little book of his genius. One of his first major books was called Radioactivity at the Dawn of the 20th Century. And was so powerfully, uh, in dynamic that within a couple of years he published a second edition. And it took a while into the early 1930's to bring out the final third edition of Radioactivity. But in 1937, the end of his life, he published a thin little book called The Newer Alchemy. We can transform matter consciously, mathematically, scientifically, which means that we have transformed as well. Scientifically, mathematically. In terms of language capacity. In terms of the way in which language is the carrier of civilization. All of it is transformable and has sped up so that it's transforming to a threshold. Finn **inaudible word or two** towards, uh, redirecting science about how 1923 is this epical date. The Oracle of Siwa that is so important in Greek and Egyptian history. In Arabic history. Siwa was founded by a little black girl. And that black girl had a twin. And her other twin founded the Oracle of Zeus in Greece in, at Dodona. So, when we talk about Siwa being the temple of Amun Ra, we're talking about the ancient not understood tuning of two black African girls who matured to be the most incredibly powerful symbols of civilization that we know of. And that 1923 sees this pair of books together with this third book in, uh, the, uh, Hermetic Tradition in Alchemy the resolving third. Yeah, you have, uh...these two and then there's a third. You have a child. You have the fertility. And that child can have children, etc., etc., etc. There's a continuity with tensegrity. Tensegrity is the architectural term that Buckminster Fuller, uh, pioneered. Uh, he wrote a book in 1962, right at Niels Bohr passing that was published and it was called Ideas and **inaudible word** Ideas and Integrities. I remember buying a copy in San Francisco at, uh, Stacy's scientific bookstore on Market Street and taking it home and trying to read it. And it was just full of fooleries. Now it reads, um, like an old friend. Tensegrity continuity was pioneered by Frank Lloyd Wright, another architect, who understood that it is the flow of presence in the structure of a place that carries the continuity of the architecture. Most people were not understanding. He wrote a wonderful thin little book for the popular persons who would take a look, and it was called Architecture: Man in Possession of His Earth, of being able to understand that there is a continuity that is real. And after the break, we'll come back and understand that that redirecting of science, that tuning back to an African feminine civil pairing is still operative. Let's take a little break. END OF SIDE ONE Let's come back to our square of attention, which is what I've called and still do. The frame of the picture, the very big picture is that you used to call it. It's a square of attention that has a chirality that can be geometricized in a chirality. That is to say, it can rotate 90 degrees either way, in which case you get a pair of diamonds. The squares become diamonds. They are paired. And if you have an overlay, the square and the diamond will make an eight-pointed mandala. But what is real about it is that there are pair of diamonds. Jewels come tuned in reality. And so that presence is always shared presence. Anywhere in the universe all the way through the cosmos. So that shared presence is that great way in which vision sees art, expresses history, remembers science, can really analyze. And consciousness in all of its gorgeous dimensions gives us. And 11-dimensional adventure in reality. We've been talking about how one of the hooks that snagged in 1650 the way in which mentality, mentality became mendacity in the sense that it imported theory into cognition. Say it ain't so, Joe. And it ain't. Theory is from the Greek word theoria. And in Greek, theoria is the word for contemplation. Which is not about structure but about all the opening differential possibilities in an infinite field. And that infinite field in its first dimension is about time. So that vision as a quintessential fifth dimension in space-time opens your eyes to eternity. Because the field of consciousness is infinite. And not only welcomes but births and even before birth, prepares for the birthing. And then does after birthing the raising to maturities and the whole cycle occurs and can reoccur and always renewed new. So that all theories are about recognition and that a cognitive theory is just what the article in December 2014 Isis labeled it and that is the article is by Rachel Rosner. And the title is The "Splendid Isolation" of Arnold T. Beck, the developer of CT. There's a lot to learn, but you have to learn how to learn first. The preparation year is 2015. Because 2016 is going to be dawn on a new horizon. And it's a coming. So, this is about the future and the new past in a continuity of energy because time is energy. What is dark energy? Time. How instantly then dark matter occurs, and not just occurs and is there in some kind of present now, but, uh, reoccurs vibrationally in resonances that have analytically harmonics. That's how music, that's how jazz gets made. You take a little bit of this and a little bit of that and choreograph it freely together and you got a jam session. Cosmos. 1650 also is about the time that an eight-year-old Isaac Newton first began to get the huge fountain of glimmers that this is wonderful and even more wonderful to find out and that I'm going to find out. 2000 years before 1650 is 350 B.C. And about that time another reference wave of civilization came into play, and it took then about six years for there to be born a baby that would very soon as he was able to hear his mother, Olympias began to understand that, yeah, I, she tells me I'm special. That was Alexander the Great. And 350 B.C. was about the time that everyone in Athens was recovering from the fact that Plato had died just a couple of years before. And that the succe...successor was Theophrastus, but the real genius and the works was Aristotle. Who did the masculine human thing that, well, I'm not the inheritor of the play...Platonic Academy here in Athens. But I think I'll do what Plato did. I'll found my own place. Because after 20 years with Plato is very capable. And especially after about 20 or 25 years, he was really something. He founded his Lyceum. But he was famous because he was the most outstanding personal teacher in the world at that time. And he became the teacher of the adolescent entering Alexander the Great and his closest friends. And, um, the rest is that kind of history that a reference wave makes. Just like 1650 the reference wave is the preparation for the ending of the cogito ergo sum selfishness. Even though it would still have its place, still has its play. But frankly, in 2015 it's going to evaporate real quick. And in 2016 be inoperable. You can pull all the triggers that you want to pull. No action. A reference wave gets its energy not from going up so much, but from arcing back down to the invisible horizon of time. Because that onward line of time indeed has a complement in a vertical rise in the ascension. And those two vectors tensor into a 45-degree outward. Onwards, upwards, but outwards, arguing into the beyond. World lies is how Einstein called them. And in one of the 1920's, great poems, Wallace Stevens, in his theory of poetry, began, he said, Paul Clay lived in a universe so vast that straight lines were seen to fall. A theoria of poetic is a visionary art put into a historical kaleidoscopic consciousness so that what analytic occurs out of that aesthetic will have the upward energies of vision, the onward energies of that quality of the way in which history is said to occur. So that the vectoring tensor is not only art, but it's pair because it's a continuity. And as the art has its 45-degree upwards onwards into an outwards. Art continues to go inwards. And the aesthetic leads to the artist. Who's always creatively imagining, always remembering. And the creative imagining has the way in which the imagination is a structure in the mind, in the brain-based mind, in the neural nets network, has a very interesting the Sanskrit word for it is papanca, cloud forming. Clouds of gas and clouds of gravity waves and all that jazz. Makes the universe really begin to occur in such a way that it vibrationally is occurring so many times per time unit however small you want to go. You want to go to femtosecond. Yeah, you can. That's the level that molecules have their action. Attosecond. that's the level where atoms have their vibrational action. You can really go down and you can get to an infinite zero and you wink out. And before instantly wink back in. you went out with wonder, and you came back wonderful in no time at all. That's called shared presence. It has a poetic; it has an analytic and it comes back to guide and shepherd the Hermetic title about 90 A.D. for the very first of the Hermetica, The Poimandres. The best early 20th century translation of it, in, uh, around 1906, G.R.S. Meade that this is the Mind Shepherd. Poimandres. It is the creative mind shepherding as in guiding, as in protecting, as in making sure that that fruitful cycle continues to be fruitful cycle and sustains life at the same time. Central to the reference wave is the descending elan of a renaissance. About 150 years before there is a reference wave there is a renaissance. A peak of the sine wave of energy. It's a crest. It doesn't just peek, it crests. And it has a complementarity in a troth. That troth is not a dangerous and way down as far down as it can go. Nor is the Renaissance as high as high as it can go. But they are like two quarters of a frequency sine wave symbol that has an, a kind of a descent to the troth and then back up through the zero horizon of time, the eternal dimensionless real that manifests time in the first dimensional place again and again, subdivide seconds by 39 decimal points and you get as close to zero as like absolute zero. Even the math tells you. The math of measurability is based on the confidence of numeracy. That's how you can count on counting. Yeah, you can divide, but it's one, two, three. And the very great, playful, elegant, masterful physicist George Gamow. I, uh, carried George Gamow's bags at Giant Forest Lodge in Sequoia National Park in 1960 out of his red convertible car with his beautiful blond wife that rode up with them. And they were all elk skin matching bags. He was just an elegant, jovial genius. Lovable beyond words. His classic early book was One, Two, Three...Infinity. You can count into infinity. But what's peculiar about numeracy, about that cardinality of a series of measurability, is that there are certain numbers that are prime. They are only divisible by one and themselves. There's no other divisibility at all in numeracy. And the cardinal numbers stack up like crazy initially. Yeah. One, two, three. You have to skip for a momentarily five. You have to skip six, momentarily seven. And so forth. And it's only in the late 20th century that a mathematician of the quality of Roger Penrose began to understand that, wait a minute, there are geometric structures of crystal crystallographic qualities of differential geometry that let us understand that it isn't just the crystal structure that has been so patiently catalogued and assumed that that's that, that there are hidden geometries differentially. And, uh, four is also in that way, oddly enough, a prime number and six and eight, um, and one can go on from there. Roger, that Roger's last book is about 1000 pages. It's titled As the Road to Reality. We're not after certainty. We want to live in reality. That it has a whole lot of dimensions that are in a harmonic. So, we have to be poetic, and we have to be kaleidoscopic. Then our aesthetics and our analytics tune. That's why in the Renaissance, the new universities... universities, they're universal, had schools of the arts and sciences. Together. No medieval universities had buildings of arts and sciences together. A renaissance fuels the reference wave. Just like the reference wave prepares all of this fuel to deliver to the carrier wave. And that that carrier wave has the real oomph of the dynamic of the time forms of civilization. Because the carrier wave is so massively energetic. That, though the reference wave will bring things into question, the carrier wave will blow them away. Which is why those who do not like the fact of disenfranchisement, then as they realize that the game is over, they exercise their cleverness in saying, well, then we'll cheat at the game. And all that cheating nibbles away and nibbles away so that you begin to get the trothing of the energy. And it goes to what colloquially is called a nadir. But that nadir does not endure because it is called right away. Not only then and there, but then in everywhere and every then everywhere. By the zenith, that next Renaissance. 500 years after a carrier wave threshold sweeps through the troth, comes quietly, silently. Largely unknowable, and rises to a millennial realization that, wait a minute, it's all really apocalyptic, isn't it. And that that carrier wave was apocalyptic. And we better really get busy and toe that line. What is that line? That line is that kind of measurability that all of our figuring has produced and we better get the thing going and get back there. So that a millennial time form is always apocalyptic in the sense that it's, it's trying to get the reference wave right and doesn't understand that the way in which that reference wave is going to have its efficacy is that it's like two hawks that hunt together. It's like the double helixes. And when you see the double helix, if you lay it horizontally on its side of those two helixes formed that kind of an energy sine wave. And the reference wave precedes the carrier wave but there is a reference wave that is millennial and not the real renaissance complementarity energy wave reference. So, there is a pair. There is a millennial reference wave which is deceptive. And there is a Renaissance inspired carrier wave reference and that that is the real point. The millennial reference wave comes about 350 A.D. in our past time form. So, its millennium was yeah, around 1000. What happened about 1000 A.D. The whole of Christendom that had fallen into apathetic stupidity. Set in so many ways and it took about 100 years for that saying to just get into a cacophony of fury and intensity. Well, it means that we have to go, and we have to get back to that reference point, that place and, uh, get back to it. And our history that's called the Crusades. And what do we have to get back to in that ten hundreds? We have to get all the great warriors, all the great knights together and, uh, and retake the Holy Land. This is one of the all-time great artworks is by William Blake. It's done about 1825. This is the title page. The title page is Jerusalem: The Emanation of the Giant Albion. Emanation is a Platonian word for reality energies. Uh, Albion is the ancient name of, uh, Britain before it was British. William Blake's Jerusalem was finished, hand engraved. And Blake's engraving was done in mirror reverse. Because you have to engrave it that way so that when you put the paper it'll print out. It was all hand covered...uh, colored. This is the only time that it's been reproduced in facsimile. This is the great Trianon Press edition in Paris. And these are as rare volumes as you ever want to find. As expensive as you can afford. If you could ever find one. We're going to look at Jerusalem next week because Jerusalem is again that archetypal apocalyptic place that's like the belly button of the whole person species that thinks that if it's not kept knotted in the way that it is, it's going to unravel, and all of the innards are going to spill out. Now that's apocalyptic. And that is worth everything to keep that belly button of civilization tight. And at the same time, the mounting energies are that that is a knot that's choking everything to death. All at the same time. All at the same place. 2012. This was published. Defending The City of God. This is not just our problem, this is God's problem given to us and we better get it right. A Medieval Queen, The First Crusades, and the Quest for Peace in Jerusalem. It's about the Crusades. Simon, uh, **inaudible word** Montefiore's great Jerusalem came out just a few years before that. The really great volume was F.E. Peters Jerusalem, published by Princeton University Press. And a whole lot of other volumes. I have brought them all here. What's important about Jerusalem is that it's quality of hearkening, it's reference authority, goes back to a beginning that came into fruition about 650 A.D. because 650 A.D. is actually the millennium of Alexander the Great's reference wave for that carrier way. So that there are millennia not only of carrier waves, there are millennia of reference waves and 650 A.D. trumps that quality of preparation that went into its troth, about 500 A.D. And all of this had occurred before. And was imperfectly understood until it got really began to be, quote, perfectly understood about 1825, that, well, we're rediscovering how all this really has come to pass and don't look good. Next week, we'll talk about the New Jerusalem, Planetary Park, a real theoria. END OF RECORDING